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	<description>I think, therefore I am... Not Religious.</description>
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		<title>By: watercat</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>watercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Alaya, for explaining this when I couldn&#039;t.  It doesn&#039;t look like this kid will let himself learn anything from it now, but one can always hope.  

And Woozle, why do you assume watercat is female?  There are plenty of men that feel women deserve respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Alaya, for explaining this when I couldn&#8217;t.  It doesn&#8217;t look like this kid will let himself learn anything from it now, but one can always hope.  </p>
<p>And Woozle, why do you assume watercat is female?  There are plenty of men that feel women deserve respect.</p>
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		<title>By: sQueeks</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>sQueeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, as a woman in this 21st century of ours, living in Canada, I didn&#039;t even consider the thing to be misogynistic. I was actually rather shocked by the comment made that it was. 
I have rarely had people be sexist to me, I have found ageism to be more of an issue, but rarely sexism. I find it frustrating that women may be given government jobs, not because they are better qualified for it, but because that department needs more females. &quot;Equality&quot; like that drives me nuts. When a crack is made about some man having his period, I immediately thought of my old roommate who was extremely irritated by everything for about a week. Then I thought about me. I get irritated for about three days. It&#039;s hormones. It happens. To say this is sexist, is a bit strong. Is it a huge generalization? Yeah. Of course it is, there are lots of women who never get bitchy in the slightest. However, Donohue sounded like a bitchy woman pissed off that you told her kid to shut up. Even though the kid needed to. Maybe I shouldn&#039;t say bitchy woman, because that might insult someone. Maybe I just should just say &quot;terrible parent&quot; because no one is one of those.
Ok, I&#039;m off on a rant onto something else. My apologies. In any case, I thought your posting was rather well done. I will continue to read your blog in the future. Congrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, as a woman in this 21st century of ours, living in Canada, I didn&#8217;t even consider the thing to be misogynistic. I was actually rather shocked by the comment made that it was.<br />
I have rarely had people be sexist to me, I have found ageism to be more of an issue, but rarely sexism. I find it frustrating that women may be given government jobs, not because they are better qualified for it, but because that department needs more females. &#8220;Equality&#8221; like that drives me nuts. When a crack is made about some man having his period, I immediately thought of my old roommate who was extremely irritated by everything for about a week. Then I thought about me. I get irritated for about three days. It&#8217;s hormones. It happens. To say this is sexist, is a bit strong. Is it a huge generalization? Yeah. Of course it is, there are lots of women who never get bitchy in the slightest. However, Donohue sounded like a bitchy woman pissed off that you told her kid to shut up. Even though the kid needed to. Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t say bitchy woman, because that might insult someone. Maybe I just should just say &#8220;terrible parent&#8221; because no one is one of those.<br />
Ok, I&#8217;m off on a rant onto something else. My apologies. In any case, I thought your posting was rather well done. I will continue to read your blog in the future. Congrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Copache</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Copache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I... uh... can&#039;t say I care to offend, honestly.

Have you noticed that this blog is dedicated to offending creationists? There are more creationists than there are either gender, or races of people. If roughly 10% of society is irreligious, that&#039;s 660 million out of 6.6 billion. I&#039;m offending 6 billion people with this blog.

It&#039;s claimed, to varying degrees, that 40% of population would be men and 60% is women. Offending 90% of the world gets me one comment every now and then but I make some off comments regarding women and suddenly that 60% decides to take notice?

If you think this post was sexist, you need to step back and breathe a bit. I don&#039;t care who I offend, honestly. I could not care less. I won&#039;t offend anyone that doesn&#039;t deserve it, and I was making comments towards Bill Donohue, not towards women as a whole.

Stop being offended by everything, because some of us (me), don&#039;t really care who we offend and how. I say what&#039;s on my mind. End of fucking story. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8230; uh&#8230; can&#8217;t say I care to offend, honestly.</p>
<p>Have you noticed that this blog is dedicated to offending creationists? There are more creationists than there are either gender, or races of people. If roughly 10% of society is irreligious, that&#8217;s 660 million out of 6.6 billion. I&#8217;m offending 6 billion people with this blog.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s claimed, to varying degrees, that 40% of population would be men and 60% is women. Offending 90% of the world gets me one comment every now and then but I make some off comments regarding women and suddenly that 60% decides to take notice?</p>
<p>If you think this post was sexist, you need to step back and breathe a bit. I don&#8217;t care who I offend, honestly. I could not care less. I won&#8217;t offend anyone that doesn&#8217;t deserve it, and I was making comments towards Bill Donohue, not towards women as a whole.</p>
<p>Stop being offended by everything, because some of us (me), don&#8217;t really care who we offend and how. I say what&#8217;s on my mind. End of fucking story. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alaya</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, buddy, sexism and racism 101:

The fact that members of a subjugated/discriminated group might enjoy pop culture produced by the members of the dominant group and ultimately reflecting their worldview doesn&#039;t necessarily imply their full support of the racist/sexist stereotypes in said pop culture product. In fact, it might have something more to do with the fact that the dominant group produces almost all the pop culture available for consumption, so members of the subjugated group have just learned to suck it up and deal with it. In a less abstract sense: I&#039;m sure you could find some black people who enjoyed Gone With the Wind when it first came out. That sure as hell doesn&#039;t mean that Mamie isn&#039;t a virulently racist caricature. 

Fast forward to the present day. Women are forced to put up with a whole lot of sexism so ingrained in our public discourse that plenty of privileged men like yourself don&#039;t notice it at all. The issue with your referencing Donohue being on his period isn&#039;t that periods are a biological reality. The issue is that the meme associated with periods in modern american pop culture is one of complete irrationality, inextricably linked to a fundamental defining feature of womanhood. It&#039;s just another way of saying Donohue is &quot;off his shit, just like a woman on the rag.&quot; This is a sexist statement. The fact that you can defend yourself in this manner only reflects the fact that you&#039;ve reflexively adopted this bit of sexism in your discourse and are privileged enough to not have to worry about it. 

&quot;Even if it’s a common pop-culture theme that women on their periods are total bitches&quot;

Yeah, and it&#039;s a common pop-culture theme that black men are shiftless and violent. Pop culture comes from the dominant culture. The dominant culture is not terribly inclined to correct its racism and sexism. You really want to sink to that standard?

Plenty of people use phrases/propagate memes that are sexist and racist without being sexists or racists. I&#039;d say the defining difference is the ability to take a step back, look at what you said and how you presented it, and make an honest assessment of the underlying cultural meaning you were exploiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, buddy, sexism and racism 101:</p>
<p>The fact that members of a subjugated/discriminated group might enjoy pop culture produced by the members of the dominant group and ultimately reflecting their worldview doesn&#8217;t necessarily imply their full support of the racist/sexist stereotypes in said pop culture product. In fact, it might have something more to do with the fact that the dominant group produces almost all the pop culture available for consumption, so members of the subjugated group have just learned to suck it up and deal with it. In a less abstract sense: I&#8217;m sure you could find some black people who enjoyed Gone With the Wind when it first came out. That sure as hell doesn&#8217;t mean that Mamie isn&#8217;t a virulently racist caricature. </p>
<p>Fast forward to the present day. Women are forced to put up with a whole lot of sexism so ingrained in our public discourse that plenty of privileged men like yourself don&#8217;t notice it at all. The issue with your referencing Donohue being on his period isn&#8217;t that periods are a biological reality. The issue is that the meme associated with periods in modern american pop culture is one of complete irrationality, inextricably linked to a fundamental defining feature of womanhood. It&#8217;s just another way of saying Donohue is &#8220;off his shit, just like a woman on the rag.&#8221; This is a sexist statement. The fact that you can defend yourself in this manner only reflects the fact that you&#8217;ve reflexively adopted this bit of sexism in your discourse and are privileged enough to not have to worry about it. </p>
<p>&#8220;Even if it’s a common pop-culture theme that women on their periods are total bitches&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, and it&#8217;s a common pop-culture theme that black men are shiftless and violent. Pop culture comes from the dominant culture. The dominant culture is not terribly inclined to correct its racism and sexism. You really want to sink to that standard?</p>
<p>Plenty of people use phrases/propagate memes that are sexist and racist without being sexists or racists. I&#8217;d say the defining difference is the ability to take a step back, look at what you said and how you presented it, and make an honest assessment of the underlying cultural meaning you were exploiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Copache</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Copache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today: 204 hits.
Yesterday: 163 hits.

Just over 80 today were from PZ&#039;s blog, and most of them didn&#039;t come from incoming links at all. Probably 15 max from incoming. Therefore it&#039;s highly likely that people sent this post around, even if only truly amongst themselves.

I never had an audience anyway, so to alienate half of them or so (that&#039;d be approximately 2 people) doesn&#039;t matter too much. 

I&#039;ve never had sex with any girls just to get laid and have bragging rights, I&#039;ve never fought with girls even in play, I&#039;ve never raised my voice towards a girl (aside from my sister, but she deserves it every time), and I&#039;ve never used any female.

But yes, just because I say in jest that some &lt;i&gt;man&lt;/i&gt; is on &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; period, I&#039;m sexist. Even if it&#039;s a common pop-culture theme that women on their periods are total bitches, while arguably not true (in a parallel universe, maybe), who are the main consumers of pop-culture? Yeah, you guessed it.

Ladies, I&#039;m one of the nicest guys you could meet, but I am brutally honest. I think the blunt force of my message would have been lost in a haze had I assumed he was entering the worst part of andropause, which most people don&#039;t know about anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today: 204 hits.<br />
Yesterday: 163 hits.</p>
<p>Just over 80 today were from PZ&#8217;s blog, and most of them didn&#8217;t come from incoming links at all. Probably 15 max from incoming. Therefore it&#8217;s highly likely that people sent this post around, even if only truly amongst themselves.</p>
<p>I never had an audience anyway, so to alienate half of them or so (that&#8217;d be approximately 2 people) doesn&#8217;t matter too much. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had sex with any girls just to get laid and have bragging rights, I&#8217;ve never fought with girls even in play, I&#8217;ve never raised my voice towards a girl (aside from my sister, but she deserves it every time), and I&#8217;ve never used any female.</p>
<p>But yes, just because I say in jest that some <i>man</i> is on <i>his</i> period, I&#8217;m sexist. Even if it&#8217;s a common pop-culture theme that women on their periods are total bitches, while arguably not true (in a parallel universe, maybe), who are the main consumers of pop-culture? Yeah, you guessed it.</p>
<p>Ladies, I&#8217;m one of the nicest guys you could meet, but I am brutally honest. I think the blunt force of my message would have been lost in a haze had I assumed he was entering the worst part of andropause, which most people don&#8217;t know about anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Woozle</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>Woozle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spoke with an actual &lt;i&gt;hyoo-monn feee-male&lt;/i&gt; sampled at random from the two occupants of our home office, who admits to bleeding regularly, and asked for her opinion.

She said Copache&#039;s usage might be offensive if it were directed at her personally, but in actual context the worst thing she could think of to say about it was that it wasn&#039;t technically &lt;i&gt;true&lt;/i&gt; (since it is highly doubtful that Mr. Donohue menstruates in the strictest sense of the word) -- and that as a metaphor, it is fine.

Going by this sample, then -- and assuming that watercat is, in fact, female -- and not, for that matter, pretending to agree with your argument only to more effectively diss you -- you&#039;ve actually only lost approximately 25%* of your audience.

(*Further samples may refine that number in either direction; your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, all plights deserved.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spoke with an actual <i>hyoo-monn feee-male</i> sampled at random from the two occupants of our home office, who admits to bleeding regularly, and asked for her opinion.</p>
<p>She said Copache&#8217;s usage might be offensive if it were directed at her personally, but in actual context the worst thing she could think of to say about it was that it wasn&#8217;t technically <i>true</i> (since it is highly doubtful that Mr. Donohue menstruates in the strictest sense of the word) &#8212; and that as a metaphor, it is fine.</p>
<p>Going by this sample, then &#8212; and assuming that watercat is, in fact, female &#8212; and not, for that matter, pretending to agree with your argument only to more effectively diss you &#8212; you&#8217;ve actually only lost approximately 25%* of your audience.</p>
<p>(*Further samples may refine that number in either direction; your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, all plights deserved.)</p>
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		<title>By: watercat</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>watercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t suprise me. You compared them to Bill Donohue, which is insult enough, and even inferred they are worse than he is.  Totally unprovoked,  tangent  to an otherwise pretty good post, it makes it look like you&#039;re a fucken prick, detracts from your point, and antagonizes at least half your audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t suprise me. You compared them to Bill Donohue, which is insult enough, and even inferred they are worse than he is.  Totally unprovoked,  tangent  to an otherwise pretty good post, it makes it look like you&#8217;re a fucken prick, detracts from your point, and antagonizes at least half your audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Copache</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Copache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol. 

Oh my! I referenced biological happenings in a female&#039;s body but referenced a man when talking about them! I must hate all women!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. </p>
<p>Oh my! I referenced biological happenings in a female&#8217;s body but referenced a man when talking about them! I must hate all women!</p>
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		<title>By: watercat</title>
		<link>http://copache.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/it-gets-me/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>watercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the post and agree with what you say, but mostly I was just offended by the misogynistic slurs.  Hateful and uncalled for, and leave me feeling dirty.  I&#039;m sorry I clicked on this link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the post and agree with what you say, but mostly I was just offended by the misogynistic slurs.  Hateful and uncalled for, and leave me feeling dirty.  I&#8217;m sorry I clicked on this link.</p>
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