Our #4 person on the list of Creationist failures has a blog setup on Blogspot.com, a blogging service owned by Google.
His blog you can find here.
Some of the logic used on the site is stunning at best. For example;
“So, a talking snake, a man living in a whale’s stomach for three days, a virgin pregnancy and a man walking on water, don’t contradict logic?”
So, a talking parrot, three hundred people flying through the sky in a big tin can called a 747, a human being growing inside another person, men walking on the moon, don’t contradict logic? Of course they do, if you are small-minded. However, science and technology have exploded the word. It has a completely different meaning than it had one hundred years ago.
OK, what? It continues.
Small-minded people are limited by the confines of what they see as logic. However, when we are born again, the Supernatural takes logic into a new realm. When we discover that the Supernatural is a reality our mind is suddenly expanded and logic explodes.
Animals could easily talk–if the Supernatural is involved. After all, speech is merely thoughts manifesting as sound, and who would deny that animals think? A man could easily live in the stomach of a whale (or “great fish”) if it was “prepared” by the God who made it, as the Bible says it was. A virgin could easily become pregnant if the One who made the virgin was involved. And walking on water is a breeze . . . when God is manifest in human form.
Comparing scientific inquiry of the natural world to mythological nonsense of supernaturalism? Creationists are good at having awful arguments. Very good. When their logic, reason, rhetoric, and “science” fails them, they try their hand at awful philosophy. But as we established from Dr. Jason Lisle with Answers in Genesis… it never ends well.
Here’s Ray Comfort’s take on philosophy.
For a skeptic to say “no one knows what happens after death,” he must know what everyone knows in order for him to know that no one knows. If he says that nobody knows, he must have access to every thought of every human being from the beginning of the human race until this very present second, because if anyone does know what happens after death, then he’s dead wrong. So, to be truthful, he is forced to say, “With the limited knowledge I have at present, I have come to the conclusion that no one knows what happens.” So he really don’t know at all.
By saying all of that, you’re saying not even you yourself know what happens after death. I’m pretty sure you were arguing that someone out there (Read: Christians) know what truly happens after death. Not so. What you have is opinion, suppositions, and so on. You don’t have the true knowledge of what happens after death or you’d be god.
I think it’s safe to say, though, that death is much the same as before life. Nothingness. I may be wrong, and if I am, so be it, but you can’t argue that no one knows what happens after life and then have your own opinion, and delcare it the law.
There’s more hilarity, and sometimes I just can’t resist actually laughing at some of the “logic” and comparisons here. For example;
Most of the Christians are very polite and try to address the issues, and the atheists are generally arrogant and word-twisting, while resorting to ridicule and personal attacks.
Christians are arrogant assuming that every word of the Bible is absolute truth even in the fucking face of evidence to the opposite. That is true arrogance. To assume that everyone arguing against the Christians would be atheistic is absurd; I’m sure there are many creationists playing devil’s advocate lumped up with the arrogant, word-twisting atheists.
And if your belief says we were created 6000 years ago when the evidence — true evidence — says 4.5 billion years ago, you deserve nothing but ridicule.
As for their comparisons…
They keep saying the same old things, such as, “Prove to me that God exists without using the Bible. If you use the Bible that’s ‘circular reasoning.’”
That is nothing short of ridiculous. It’s like saying, “Prove to me that the President lives in the White House, but don’t look into the White House.”
The Bible contains words written. It has no history backing it. Just words written in that one book plus the many books it stole from that were around far before it. The Zoroastrian religion and Judaism, for example. I can look into the Koran and see that Allah exists. I can look into any religious book anywhere and it shows me that the god of that book exists.
Why is this true?
Because the god of the Koran says he’s the real deal in the book! Why believe the book? Because the book says that the book is true.

Whereas we can see President Bush in the White House (though he’s on his Texas ranch most of the time), we have historical accounts of him from many sources, we have video of him, we have pictures of him, and people have physically met him (read: not spiritually), I think it’s safe to assume that President Bush exists, no matter how much we here in the US wish he didn’t.
But the Bible is one book out of many that proclaims its self-truth (and it’s not even the first to do so), there are no alternative historical accounts of Jesus, there are no references to him in culture of the time (though this did start appear, though about 40 years late), etc. etc.
Ray Comfort, you sir are a failure. I won’t go as far as to wish death upon you, but god damn you. Just god damn you.
I used to be well acquainted with Ray Comfort’s blog but then I got tired of the non sense that goes on there. When you make a serious argument to whatever he’s spewing he just keeps spewing more and more BS until the argument is so far out in wacky-land that it becomes useless. Remember, this is the guy that says the banana is proof of god because we it is looks as if it’s designed for us…
He doesn’t even know that ALL of the vegetables that we eat have been domesticated through a slow process (of evolution). ‘Wild’ bananas look nothing like the bright yellow banana that you’re used to seeing.
Also, if some Christians really do take the bible as the literal word of god then they should be stoning their unruly children to death, trading slaves according to the rules of the old AND new testaments, raping, murdering and performing ritual human sacrifice. I’m all for promoting the “good parts” of the bible but not to admit that those parts are good BECAUSE they are in the bible. That’s completely and patently false.
“Also, if some Christians really do take the bible as the literal word of god then they should be stoning their unruly children to death, trading slaves according to the rules of the old AND new testaments, raping, murdering and performing ritual human sacrifice.”
“I’d be interested to know where you found approval of ritual human sacrifice and raping in the Bible, especially in the New Testamant. And where does it condone the trading of slaves???
First off, here are some references to mentions of slavery. The bible really likes giving specific rules for trading and acquiring slaves…
Hebrew Slaves: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2021:2-6;&version=31;
Selling your daughter as a slave: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+21:7-11
What happens if you kill a slave? http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2021:20-21;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:5;&version=31;
Here’s some slavery in the new testament:
People in debt (and their family) put into slavery for payment of their debt. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2018:25;&version=31;
Slaves should obey their masters like christ. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:5-9;&version=31;
Notice: slave was replaces with servant in many translations of the bible to by more sympathetic but it’s obvious (at least to me) that it is, in fact, a forced situation: aka slavery.
Next, let’s go with ritual sacrifice:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%207:15;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2013:1-2;&version=31;
Now for some rapage:
If you rape a girl then you’ve got to give her father 50 shekels of silver and marry her. Wow, what a punishment… http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2022:28-29;&version=31;
I tried to make it clear that condoning slavery is in the new testament. I’m not sure about rape and sacrifice. I doubt that… I would look up more references but I really don’t want to put any more effort into teaching you about your bible… (I’m assuming). My whole point was that the bible contradicts our current moral understanding and that no one actually obeys the bible word for word. If they did general society would call them, dare I say, crazy.
In response to the above post -”My whole point was that the bible contradicts our current moral understanding and that no one actually obeys the bible word for word. If they did general society would call them, dare I say, crazy.”
Umm the bible does not contradict any moral understanding, human beings do. I am a christian who obeys and believe the bible word for word – and I have to say you got one thing right, the world thinks I am crazy. So did the world think of the Lord Jesus, Paul, Peter and all the other apostles of Christ.
Will leave you with Jesus’s words in John 15: 18-19
“If the world hates you, you know that it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.”
By the looks of it you hate Christians, and bible testifies that you do. The very bible you hate is a testimony agaisnt you!
Deuteronomy
Chapter 13 Verse 6: If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7: Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8: Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Morals in Christianity? If killing apostates is moral, sure. But it’s not and it never was. I don’t care if the rules were different 4000 years ago or ten million years ago, killing others is never right.
Deuteronomy 13:6-9 is a perfect demonstration of how the only true God of the bible hates people who serve false gods. The bible is never wrong. We should love God above our own families. Actually we should love God more than we love ourselves. We all deserve to be stoned to death, because we are all evil by nature.
What you need to realise is that you are alive because of God’s common grace. If God gave you justice you will not be here today.
You are right killing others is wrong. But what is in Deuteronomy is not the same as murder. Its like a person sentenced to death for a crime, that is not murder.
With that logic, you make me hate this god fellow even more. I don’t care who he is or what he did, he’s still a gigantic prick.
A gigantic jealous prick.
Sadly you will have to face the God you hate on the day of Judgement and with your own mouth you will confess that Jesus is Lord.
Well, I won’t have too much of a problem with that, should that be the case! I mean, I’m not going to look him right in the eye and say “there you aren’t!”